What New Products Do You Want From CL?

[jaymdubbs]

i think this would be killer-


an anti estrogein/cortisol (similar to DS lean extreme or a really innovative cort blocker)

also, a non hormonal test booster, something similar to anagen, hyperdrol, etc. (but i know PU doesnt think highly of edcy, but CL is innovative, im sure u could think of something!)

[Controlled Labs]

i think this would be killer-


an anti estrogein/cortisol (similar to DS lean extreme or a really innovative cort blocker)

also, a non hormonal test booster, something similar to anagen, hyperdrol, etc. (but i know PU doesnt think highly of edcy, but CL is innovative, im sure u could think of something!)

I dont get why people think that things like hyperdrol and rebound reloaded, are non-hormonal, what do they think 6-bromo is?

[jaymdubbs]

lol if you want to get technical, than you are correct.

however, gyno and products like superdrol, halodrol, etc. that have consequences and require pct scare the crap out of me (anedocal and scientific reasons).

to be honest i havent researched this aspect of supplementation enough to form a good opinion on it yet

[Controlled Labs]

lol if you want to get technical, than you are correct.

however, gyno and products like superdrol, halodrol, etc. that have consequences and require pct scare the crap out of me (anedocal and scientific reasons).

to be honest i havent researched this aspect of supplementation enough to form a good opinion on it yet

I hear you, and wise move. I wouldnt touch any of these types of products either.

[Mr. Aries]

i would definitely love to have a anti-cortisol product.. that would be kick ass..

[bis]

i would definitely love to have a anti-cortisol product.. that would be kick ass..

Vitamin C?

[Mr. Aries]

um..no

[HBY18202]

A bulk flavored Leucine product.

I've heard that Thermolife is putting there eggs in this basket, but everyone needs a rival

Anythings better than Leukic....

[Controlled Labs]

A bulk flavored Leucine product.

I've heard that Thermolife is putting there eggs in this basket, but everyone needs a rival

Anythings better than Leukic....

how do you know they are launching one?

[jiritt0]

bulk leucine doesnt have much of a taste does it?

[Mr. Aries]

bulk leucine doesnt have much of a taste does it?

no taste whatsoever

[HBY18202]

how do you know they are launching one?

I mentioned I would like one in a thread, and he linked me to another thread saying they were working on it. I'm sure if it would benefit you, I could look it up, it would just take a while....

[jaymdubbs]

i think this would be good (in detail ingredients listed)

a preworkout powder, with like 60-80 servings




Vitamin B3
Vitamin B6
Folic Acid
Vitamin B12
Creatine Ethyl Ester Malate
Tricreatine Malate or magnesium creatine chelate
Arginine Alpha-Ketoglutarate (A-AKG)
orthinine ethyl
Betaine-Anhydrous
Taurine
Glutamine-AKG
N-Acetyl-L-Glutamine

L-Leucine, L-Isoleucine, L-Valine, L-Tyrosine, N-Acetyl Cysteine, L-Phenalalanine, Vandyl Sulfate

Beta Alanine, Citrulline Malate, Betaine Anhydrous, Ginger (from root), L-Norvaline

Glycocyamine, Glucuronolactone, L-Citrulline, MCT's), Caffeine, Cinnulin, Vinpocetine, Vincamine,


in a nut shell, a partial bcaa creatine/NO endurance volumizer.

[pu12en12g]

Well I do want the ideas to keep coming in, but there are a few problems with that last one J that wouldn't make it viable.

The consumer would be much (MUCH) better off stacking (key: choosing)

GMAG
GG
WRAATH
WB
Vanadyl

Why do I say this ?

1) Well for starters, potent / high dose nitric oxide precursors really should be cycled, but creatine doesn't need to be... creating a initial problem with the product and confusion for the consumer

2) The 2 glutamines I want to avoid bashing... but basically it isn't that Glutamine does "nothing" it's simply that it isn't a efficient way to do "anything". Some do notice better recovery with glutamine.. they would also notice better recovery simply by increasing their protein intake which would be more efficient... some free form powders are worth focusing on, and glutamine unfortunately isn't one of them.

3) Free Form EAA's are costly and would skyrocket the price.. consumers seem to be split about 75/25 on EAA / BCAA products... so let's let them CHOOSE ! The all-in-one products on the market that are successful are fueled mainly by ridiculous claims and like 10 pages of ads per magazine.

- Pt

[jiritt0]

The all-in-one products on the market that are successful are fueled mainly by ridiculous claims and like 10 pages of ads per magazine.

- Pt

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