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    Quote Originally Posted by browndustin
    lol heís tryin to sling his wares. Itís funny when you meet an out of shape know-it-all. As long as he isnít preaching to you, itís pretty hilarious

    But about that nose bleed, remember that the heat and humidity can make regular days a beating on your nasal. Things can get dry, irritated and inflamed and jumping into water can break the blood vessels and cause your nose to bleed. My brother and I had it bad as kids. I still plug my nose jumping into pools in case I actually got a nose bleed now. Mine used to be pretty hella.

    Just be glad that youíre not like my bro, he had to get a tampon put in his nose for 3 days straight! Gives your nasal some time to strengthen up and build some immunity towards the elements.

    Good to know that the appetiteís there eh. I hate not being able to eat maintenance or surplus. Looking forward to more updates, man. Keep up the good work
    The dude was pretty big... he said he weighed like 250 which he looked to weigh pretty easy. Before he started talking to us he was doing military press with 225, pretty big... at least for what Ive seen.

    But yeah that has to be the reason for the nose bleed. The humidity is horrible.

    Yeah I love actually eating now. I used to be pushed to eat maintenance and now Im easily getting bulk calories. Good stuff that Black Hole.

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    I feel like a caveman. I canít afford to buy Black Out on top of my current stack so I just smoke weed to help munch on healthy, laid out foods. I ate a pot cookie this morning so I would have an appetite at work today. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by browndustin
    I feel like a caveman. I canít afford to buy Black Out on top of my current stack so I just smoke weed to help munch on healthy, laid out foods. I ate a pot cookie this morning so I would have an appetite at work today. lol
    I lol'd at this bro! Wouldn't it be cheaper to NOT buy the pot and get the supp instead?

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    Default Day 11

    Ok so day 11 workout and diet goes as follows:

    First off I have to say that it was the best workout Ive ever had. I had a huge pump and was looking so much bigger than usual, and now today my arms are still pumped up almost 24 hours later.

    Weight - Pre/Post Workout
    159 /161 - same as previous day. Hopefully next week Ill be a steady 160.

    Workout: - I found a workout in a FitnessRx magazine that I wanted to try. It was bis/tris and its called the Science based workout. Probably my favorite workout ever b/c it incorporates drop sets. It includes 4 super sets and goes as follows:

    Superset Pair 1 - Preacher Curls/close grip bench -- set 1 10 reps, set 2 drop sets until failure.

    Superset Pair 2 - One arm preacher curls/decline tricep extensions -- set 1 10 reps, set 2 drop sets till failure

    Superset Pair 3 - Seated incline alternate dumbbell curls/Bench dips -- set 1 10 reps, set 2 drops sets till failure

    Superset Pair 4 - standing curls with olympic bar/tricep pushdowns -- set 1 10 reps, set 2 drop sets till failure

    Sleep:
    Sleep is back to normal. Woke up today feeling refreshed but sore.

    Diet:
    9 AM - protein shake with pancake syrup and honey
    Noon - leftover Japanese
    2 PM - had just finished working out so I had a protein shake
    5 PM - honey roasted cashew, 2 bags - love that stuff
    6:15 - took BH
    7 PM - had some more chicken, biscuits, potato wedges.
    9 PM - Protein shake - no syrup
    11 PM - final shake


    Supplement Dosages
    3 Hyperdrol/Retain - breakfast, lunch, dinner
    5 grams of fish oil - 3 breakfast, 2 dinner
    2 Vigor - breakfast, dinner
    2 Vitamins - breakfast, dinner

    Water:
    2 gallons

    Energy:
    Feeling pretty good.

    Mood:
    Feeling good

    Sides:
    Still no sides

    Other: Haha so my parents last night said something to me about how Ive been eating a lot more lately, theyre like youve got a bottomless stomach. And I was tempted to say no, I have a black hole for a stomach... but they wouldnt have got the joke so no use.

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    Not much to update with tonight.

    Had an off day, a much needed off day.

    Diet was right where it should be, as well as supplement dosing.

    Took BH tonight before supper and ate well more than my share of pizza - cheat meal.

    The gym I workout at called my friend today asking if me and him would come in late monday to help them rearrange the weight room b/c most of the people who work there are women and they need guys to move it. Hopefully this will get me in good with the manager so I can get a job there soon.

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    Default Day 13 and 14

    Day 13/14 - off days.

    Day 13

    Weight - Pre/Post Workout
    - No scale, off day

    Workout: off day

    Sleep:
    A good solid 9 hours

    Diet:
    9 AM - protein shake with pancake syrup and honey
    Noon - a fire department had a baked barbecue chicken cookout today, bought two plates one for lunch one for dinner. Basically a whole chicken, baked beans, slaw, and roll
    5 PM - protein shakes
    6:15 - took BH
    7 PM - the 2nd of the chicken plates
    9 PM - Protein shake - no syrup
    11 PM - final shake


    Supplement Dosages
    3 Hyperdrol/Retain - breakfast, lunch, dinner
    5 grams of fish oil - 3 breakfast, 2 dinner
    2 Vigor - breakfast, dinner
    2 Vitamins - breakfast, dinner

    Water:
    2 gallons

    Energy:
    Feeling pretty good.

    Mood:
    Feeling good

    Sides:
    Still no sides

    Other: Gotta love the "youre getting bigger comments". I saw family that I havent seen in about a month and they said theres a noticeable difference, particularly in my arms.

    Day 14:

    everything same as above, no workout, no weigh in, good 9 hours of sleep, no sides.

    Its still early, so Ill have to update with the diet for the day later.

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    Default Day 15

    Ok for starters my max bench jumped up another 10 lbs from last week. That puts it at 20 lbs for the duration that Ive been on this log. And right at 95 lb increase in bench for the year. Maxed at 250.

    Weight - Pre/Post Workout
    - 159, 160... this was totally on an empty stomach (bad I know) and I had went forever without water (another bad). I had to go to my campus today so I was there like 4 hours today with no breaks.

    Workout: Chest

    First I maxed as I stated above.

    The workout went as follows.
    Flat Bench - 135 x 10
    185 x 6
    225 x 2
    Chest Iso Press - 180 lbs 3 sets of 15
    1 Superset of : 135 x 10/cable cross overs 60 lbs/flat bench drop set starting with 125 dropping to 105.
    DB Bench - 35s 3 sets of 15 - I can do a lot more than that when fresh. Usually 70s but I was exhausted at this point.

    Sleep:
    5 hrs!! Pretty tired.

    Diet:
    9 AM - protein shake with pancake syrup and honey
    Noon - Chinese food. Sesame chicken, some other chicken and rice
    2 PM - just finished working out - protein shake
    5 PM - protein shakes
    6:15 - took BH
    7 PM - Pizza
    9 PM - Protein shake - no syrup
    11 PM - final shake


    Supplement Dosages
    3 Hyperdrol/Retain - breakfast, lunch, dinner
    5 grams of fish oil - 3 breakfast, 2 dinner
    2 Vigor - breakfast, dinner
    2 Vitamins - breakfast, dinner

    Water:
    2 gallons

    Energy:
    Tired - sleep issues noted above.

    Mood:
    Feeling good

    Sides:
    Still no sides

    Other: Got a free month of membership at the gym today for helping them carry weights when they rearranged the weight room.

    Pretty stoked about the max on the bench. If I can break 275 by the end of the year Ill be happy. Although Im hoping for more than that.

    Black HOLE notes. Still eating well. I noticed some others were experiencing a slight loss of effectiveness if dosed at the same time every day. I dont seem to be getting that.

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    Default Day 16

    Weight - Pre/Post Workout
    - 160/161.5

    Workout: Arms
    Superset Pair 1 - Preacher Curls/close grip bench -- set 1 10 reps, set 2 drop sets until failure.

    Superset Pair 2 - One arm preacher curls/decline tricep extensions -- set 1 10 reps, set 2 drop sets till failure

    Superset Pair 3 - Seated incline alternate dumbbell curls/Bench dips -- set 1 10 reps, set 2 drops sets till failure

    Superset Pair 4 - standing curls with olympic bar/tricep pushdowns -- set 1 10 reps, set 2 drop sets till failure

    Sleep:
    Sleep was back to normal. 8 hours

    Diet:
    9 AM - protein shake with pancake syrup and honey
    Noon - Chicken noodle soup, turkey ham and cheese sub, spoon of PB
    2 PM - just finished working out - protein shake
    5 PM - protein shake
    6:15 - took BH
    7 PM - Pizza - salad
    9 PM - Protein shake - no syrup
    11 PM - final shake


    Supplement Dosages
    3 Hyperdrol/Retain - breakfast, lunch, dinner
    5 grams of fish oil - 3 breakfast, 2 dinner
    2 Vigor - breakfast, dinner
    2 Vitamins - breakfast, dinner

    Water:
    2 gallons

    Energy:
    Felt pretty good today

    Mood:
    Feeling good

    Sides:
    Still no sides

    Other: Vascularity is up, way up. Thirst is up. No headaches which Ive noticed some people having with Hyperdrol.

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    Default Day 17

    Today ended up being an off day. Ill just lift Friday instead of taking an off day then. I had to drive about an hour to my apartment Ill be staying at near campus once classes start back up and take care of some things.

    Anyway, Im very very sore from the workout yesterday. Which is ok with me, I wouldnt feel normal if I wasnt sore.

    Diet for the day

    9 AM - Protein shake, syrup
    11AM - cup of peanuts
    1 PM - chicken tenders, potatoe wedges
    4 PM - PBJ sandwich
    5 PM - took BH
    6 PM - went out for Japanese, ate Teriyaki Steak and Rice with some soup. Came home and ate a grilled chicken salad. Hungry hungry
    8 - protein shake
    11 - protein shake

    BH definitely made me hold more food today. I like eating.

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    Default Day 18

    Back and Shoulders Day

    Weight - Pre/Post Workout
    - 160/161.5

    Workout: Back/Shoulders

    Sleep:
    A good solid 9 hours

    Diet:
    9 AM - protein shake with pancake syrup - out of honey
    Noon - chicken tenders, couple slices of leftover pizza
    5 PM - protein shake
    6:15 - took BH
    7 PM - grilled chicken salad
    9 PM - Protein shake - no syrup
    11 PM - final shake


    Supplement Dosages
    3 Hyperdrol/Retain - breakfast, lunch, dinner
    5 grams of fish oil - 3 breakfast, 2 dinner
    2 Vigor - breakfast, dinner
    2 Vitamins - breakfast, dinner

    Water:
    2 gallons

    Energy:
    Felt pretty good

    Mood:
    Feeling good

    Sides:
    Still no sides

    Other: Black HOLE still doing its job. Yet to lose effectiveness.

    Also, Im trying to plan out a new stack so that I can get it ordered and here by the time this ones done. Any ideas?

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    Default Day 19 and 20

    Ok so yesterday was supposed to be chest day, but due to the inability to get to the gym it was an off day.

    Day 20

    Weight - Pre/Post Workout
    - not sure, new gym... couldnt find the scale. Ill find it tomorrow.

    Workout: Chest
    DB Bench - Flat Bench 3 sets of 10 - 60s
    - Incline 3 sets of 10 - 45s
    Decline Bench - 3 sets of 10 - 135

    Sleep:
    5 hours - maybe.

    Diet:
    9 AM - protein shake with pancake syrup - out of honey
    Noon - explored the food court a little on campus... ended up at Pizza hut getting a personal pizza and bread sticks. (barbecue chicken pizza)
    5 PM - protein shake
    6:15 - took BH
    7 PM - Sesame Chicken and rice
    8 pm - workout
    9 PM - Protein shake - no syrup
    11 PM - final shake


    Supplement Dosages
    3 Hyperdrol/Retain - breakfast, lunch, dinner
    5 grams of fish oil - 3 breakfast, 2 dinner
    2 Vigor - breakfast, dinner
    2 Vitamins - breakfast, dinner

    Water:
    2 gallons

    Energy:
    Feeling drained... no sleep

    Mood:
    Feeling good

    Sides:
    Today I had a horrible day. Felt crappy, when I got to the gym the girl I know that works there was telling me how I looked like I felt horrible. Close to the end of the workout I just got this overall weird feeling... the most noticeable thing was probably my lips feeling like they were swollen. Would this be blood pressure related?...

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    I have never heard of swollen lips being a sign of high blood rpessure but I have ehard of them being a sign of an allergy.

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    Default Day 21

    Day 21

    Weight - Pre/Post Workout
    - Still couldnt find the scale. If I dont find one Im going to go to Walmart and buy one cause I like keeping up with weight variants at different times of the day. I like knowing how much water Im holding.

    Workout: Arms
    Biceps
    - One Arm Preacher Curls - 3 sets of 12 - each arm - 25s
    - Incline Curls - 3 sets of 10 - 30s
    - Concentration Curls - 3 sets of 10 - 25s
    Triceps
    - Close Grip Bench - 3 x 8 - 135
    - Tricep Overhead Press - 3 sets of 12 - 45/50/55
    - Kickbacks - 3 sets of 10 - 25s

    Sleep:
    Kinda stressed. Takes a while to fall asleep, and then when I wake up Im not feeling refreshed, so Im not getting very deep sleep either.

    Diet:
    9 AM - protein shake with pancake syrup - out of honey
    Noon - Sesame Chicken
    5 PM - protein shake
    6:15 - took BH
    7 PM - Buffet at Golden Corral - pot roast, chicken, rolls... the usual.
    8 pm - workout
    9 PM - Protein shake - no syrup
    11 PM - final shake

    Supplement Dosages
    3 Hyperdrol/Retain - breakfast, lunch, dinner
    5 grams of fish oil - 3 breakfast, 2 dinner
    2 Vigor - breakfast, dinner
    2 Vitamins - breakfast, dinner

    Water:
    2 gallons

    Energy:
    Feeling drained... no sleep

    Mood:
    Feeling good

    Sides:
    None

    Other:
    Still going through the adjustment period of going to a University and moving into an apartment. Learning to manage my time, there are a lot of distractions. Other than than my body is feeling relatively good, mind is dog tired, but anyway.

    Still trying to decide on a new stack. Any suggestions keeping in mind that at the end of this log will be 12 consecutive weeks on JW and then Hyperdrol. Just looking for ideas.

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    Default Day 22

    Day 22

    Weight - Pre/Post Workout
    - Still not sure. Ill look for the scale hard Monday and if I dont find it Ill buy one.

    Workout: http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/beast36.htm
    Found this so I tried it. Did the shoulders and back parts. Which are Tuesday and Saturday combined I believe. Didnt do the leg parts.

    Sleep:
    Sleep still isnt how Id like it. But its bearable.

    Diet:
    9 AM - protein shake with pancake syrup - out of honey
    Noon - BBQ sandwichs
    5 PM - protein shake
    6:15 - took BH
    7 PM - Golden Corral Again
    8 pm - workout
    9 PM - Protein shake - no syrup
    11 PM - final shake

    Supplement Dosages
    3 Hyperdrol/Retain - breakfast, lunch, dinner
    5 grams of fish oil - 3 breakfast, 2 dinner
    2 Vigor - breakfast, dinner
    2 Vitamins - breakfast, dinner

    Water:
    2 gallons

    Energy:
    Feeling drained... no sleep

    Mood:
    Feeling good

    Sides:
    None

    Other:
    Still trying to decide on a new stack. Any suggestions keeping in mind that at the end of this log will be 12 consecutive weeks on JW and then Hyperdrol. Just looking for ideas. Im thinking about trying X-Factor if I think I can deal with the diet restrictions - unless there are new directions.

    And oh, btw - black HOLE before an all you can eat buffet = very good idea.

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    I feel as though I should make a note of this.

    Yesterday I was going to lift and went to get in the car and the car wouldnt start so no go to the gym. Car is fixed now so Ill lift tonight.

    Also, I bought a scale after I got my car fixed. When I got on it it said I weighed 155? Which is down from 160 which confuses me. Im thinking due to scale variations, and the fact that Im walking 2 sometimes 3 miles a day is making me lose weight is what is the cause for the weight change.

    Anyway, total weight for me right now isnt a huge deal. Im just using a scale as a measurement for incremental weight gain just to make sure Im still going up.

    So, from the next update forward Ill stop posting total weight and just the increase in weight from the beginning - based on the original numbers. For instance, if tomorrow I weigh 156 Ill count that as weighing 161 based on the start of the log weighing 158 I believe. So Id just note that overall weight gain is 3 lbs. Hope this doesnt cause any confusion.

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    Default Day 23 and 24

    Day 24 - ended up not working out due to what I posted earlier. Yesterday was one sucky day.

    Day 25

    Weight - check previous post
    -- 3 lbs gained total

    Workout: http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/beast36.htm
    Did Monday. Should have written down the weight I used for each but I forgot anything to record it with. Strength is definitely going up though, and pumps were pretty nice.

    Sleep:
    Well what can I say, Im sleeping. Not the best sleep ever though.

    Diet:
    9 AM - protein shake, turkey sandwich
    Noon - BBQ sandwiches
    5 PM - protein shake
    6:15 - took BH
    7 PM - teriyaki chicken and rice, turkey sandwich
    8 pm - workout
    9 PM - Protein shake - no syrup
    11 PM - final shake

    Supplement Dosages
    3 Hyperdrol/Retain - breakfast, lunch, dinner
    5 grams of fish oil - 3 breakfast, 2 dinner
    2 Vigor - breakfast, dinner
    2 Vitamins - breakfast, dinner

    Water:
    2 gallons

    Energy:
    Feeling pretty good today. If I could sleep Id feel fine. Im stressed here lately.

    Mood:
    Feeling good

    Sides:
    None

    Other:
    Trying to get some opinions on my next stack still. I need to place an order tonight, by the latest tomorrow. Im wanting to do an X-Factor/Activate stack, BUT X-Factor is out of stock. So Im thinking maybe the Syntrax Hyper-H in place of X-Factor and use HH with Activate - I would go ahead and buy Rebound Reloaded for the whole sha-bam but I want to lay off the AIs a while.

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    Default Day 26

    Day 26

    Weight - check previous post
    -- [3]

    Workout:
    Arms
    Biceps
    - incline alternating db curls - 3 sets of 12 with 30s
    - preacher curls - 3 sets of 10 - 25 lb plate on both sides
    - one arm preacher curls with 25s for the first set, 20 for the last 2
    Triceps
    - overhead presses 3 sets of 12 - 45/50/55
    - kickbacks 3 sets of 12 - 25s
    - pushdowns - forget the weight

    Cardio: thats right cardio. Something Ive yet to mention or do for the duration of this log.
    - walked 2 miles, ran 1.5 miles.

    Sleep:
    Slept the best last night I have in a while, granted I was asleep before 12 for the first time in a while too.

    Diet:
    9 AM - protein shake, bowl of cherrios
    Noon - BBQ sandwiches
    5 PM - protein shake
    6:15 - took BH
    7 PM - teriyaki chicken and rice, turkey sandwich
    8 pm - workout
    9 PM - Protein shake - no syrup
    11 PM - final shake

    Supplement Dosages
    3 Hyperdrol/Retain - breakfast, lunch, dinner
    5 grams of fish oil - 3 breakfast, 2 dinner
    2 Vigor - breakfast, dinner
    2 Vitamins - breakfast, dinner

    Water:
    2 gallons

    Energy:
    Felt good today, Im thinking the cardio is getting me going.

    Mood:
    Feeling good

    Sides:
    None

    Other:
    So I got picked to test MAN Sports Body Octane/Orotine. So instead of running a log on the stuff I bought last night, Ill be doing a lot for them b/c Ive committed to them to do a log as best I can so Ill leave the other stuff out until the next month of stuff is up.

    Also, day 28 which is Friday will be the last day of the log. Mainly because the weekend is off days for me and thatll complete the full 30 days. So on Friday Ill update with whatever I feel necessary and type up a review, for all the products Ive used for this log. Paying more attention to Black HOLE b/c Im doing this log for CL.

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    Default Final Review

    OK so I did bis/back and shoulders today. Odd combination I know but I felt like hitting my shoulders hard today.

    Did some high reps/low weight sets of bis... just to change it up a little

    Shoulders did military with 40/50/60s - 8 reps
    Arnold Presses 40 lbs for 12 reps
    Shrugs - 225 2 sets of 10

    Back
    Bent Over rows - 60s 2 x 10... 70s 1 x 10

    Ok on the the Final Review.

    Start of month - 158
    End of month - 162
    Overall weight change 4 lbs. Not too shabby if you ask me.

    Black HOLE:
    What can I say. The product delivers on exactly what it says it should. At first you think the product is designed to MAKE you hungry, which I found to not be the exact way it works, not saying it didnt do that a little. From what I felt it allows you to eat more without being full, which is I guess b/c of the digestive aids. This whole month Ive ate more food than I can ever remember eating. So I give Black HOLE a big thumbs up, and would recommend it to anyone who has trouble getting in their calories.

    Rating: 10/10

    Hyperdrol/Retain:
    They deliver too. Stacked together I had great pumps, vascularity, was more focused in the gym. I never had joint problems with it like some reported, the only bad thing I can report from it is lack of sleep and headaches, which I think were inter-related. Again, products like this dont work unless you are getting protein... and they work really well if you do b/c of increased protein synthesis.

    Rating: 8/10

    Overall:

    Pumps - 8/10
    Vascularity - 9/10
    Weight gain - 8/10
    Recovery - 9/10
    Acne - not a problem
    Sleep - 5/10
    Headaches - on occassion, not bad though
    Appetite - 11/10

    If youd like me to go into detail on anything more just let me know.

    Thanks again to the CL guys for the chance to do this.

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    great review, I will be doing the Mass FX/Hyperdrol with retain in the next week.

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