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  • #16
    Thanks. As for as the sups are concerned....why are you on this forum then if you are against supplements?

    Also, what certifications do you have? degree? etc

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    • #17
      Tommy, i tried the workout and WOW it was awesome! Best pumps ive had in a while! Thanks

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      • #18
        Originally posted by breathemetal View Post
        Tommy, i tried the workout and WOW it was awesome! Best pumps ive had in a while! Thanks
        Awesome! Glade you liked it, I find it works the best for me, I've tried a lot of diff arm workouts and I love that one the most.

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        • #19
          Yeah I definitely like it. I kept my usual weights for the first supersetted part, but once i hit those 3 rounds, i had to lower :/ but i still had a great workout!

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          • #20
            Originally posted by breathemetal View Post
            Thanks. As for as the sups are concerned....why are you on this forum then if you are against supplements?

            Also, what certifications do you have? degree? etc
            I like to stay in the know on supplements because most people are complete dumbasses and need someone to give them the truth (not a purty half naked model marketing logo saying THIS WILL CHANGE YOUR LIFE on every other magazine page) - plus I do use some things myself, as I am at that stage in my training age where they can be useful, at times. so I am not necessarily purely against supplement use as a whole, I am against people that shouldnt be using supplements using them for various detrimental psycho-physio logical reasons.

            your body will accomodate to everything you do, but only for a short period of time, if you use advanced training methods or nutrition practices (herein regarding supplement usage) prior to when it is really needed you will accomodate to the benefits before you even need the support... this is further facilitied by those that tell you to take things year round with no time off.. surely one would assume they mean good yet i believe that more often than not these practices stem from their person desire for you to buy/consume more of their product and help them get a new car/house/etc.


            my background:
            MS Kinesiology *sport & exercise psychology* from Temple Univ
            NSCA-CPT
            NSCA- CSCS
            USAW level 1 (sport/club coach)
            USA Track & Field level 1 (actually at a weekend clinic to get this next weekend)
            AASDN Nutrition Specialist (if they accept the paperwork I sent out yesterday - I don't really care if they do I only did it cause I had the opportunity for free)

            I've taught weight training at Temple University for about 3 years now - taking fat lazy people or idiot meatheads, and re-developing their whole philsophy on training/health for significantly improved results.


            I did an internship at Velocity Sports Performance for a semester while in grad school - this is what sparked everything for me; it helped me see the light and leave the world of crappy training (which i learned thanks to bb.com and muscle & fiction magazines) and learn how to actually train for performance, health, and composition

            and for the past academic year I have volunteered with Temple's Strength & Conditioning program - in the fall I was able to function as the sole coach for the Crew and Fencing teams - now I merely asssist with track and field due to schedule issues ( i had to get a 2nd job to pay bills)

            I am hoping that during the 2010-2011 school year I can get an internship with Villanova's strength & conditioning program, working primarily with their football and basketball teams

            The collegiate S&C coaching avenue is my desired path to pursue, I am struggling to find any FT jobs there due to a lack of experience -- I was unaware of the field until my last year of graduate school, and did not have any experience in that realm until I began volunteering - no experience + no social networks = struggles to find a job without a major relocation (I can not travel far from my family or my fiancees)


            I've been told by Temple's strength coach I work with/went to school with that the thign that most impressed him is that I am a self made guy -- I haven't had any mentor in this field really -- everything I know I have gone out and taught myself or learned through trial & error under the bar (my favorite part).


            To be real, my personal early education on alot of things - especially nutrition- stemmed from pu12 at bb.com boards -- that lead me to get into those forums and read alot and dive head first into supplement usage without much knowledge (for better or worse). granite i also had a pretty decent HS strength coach for football (he worked with the Univ of Pitt and Pittsburgh Pirates they said..) which taught me the value of hard work, busting your ass, and what it means to be a man (gotta love sports)...though as I have progressed in this field I realize I could of been 100x a better athlete if our trainign program wasn't so weaksauce... I imagine this is why the guy was working with a small crappy HS football team instead of professional/collegiate sports at that time haha


            I've since been able to significantly re-write everything with a more scientifically based application of knowledge rather than pure underground meathead somewhat fantasy ideologies. I post here because it was not as supplement whoreish in the past; but sadly as bob dylan once let rip, the times they are a changin..


            if your ever real bored, look up my log from 2009.... it was ok training -I'm not sure why people post their training online, so I quit doing that because I believe it proved to be a waste of time/energy - 2010 has been far superior, and for some reason, I am terrified for what the rest of the year holds. I can not wait to get back outside running sprints and all that shizz

            A wise man once said "One shalt not wrestle with monsters, lest ye be a beast himself." I don't know how that fits in here, but it sounded cool and I think i just made it up. (bet i had you going with the wise man thing)
            Last edited by jiritt0; 03-13-2010, 09:21 AM.

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            • #21
              How old are you? And where could i find that log?

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              • #22
                Originally posted by jdiritto View Post
                if your ever real bored, look up my log from 2009.... it was ok training -I'm not sure why people post their training online, so I quit doing that because I believe it proved to be a waste of time/energy
                It's fun to look back on IMO !

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                • #23
                  JD, is there a program that you would recommend for someone to take to learn more of the collegiate/olympic approach of learning? Other than a 4yr degree. I have alot from reading articles from olympic athletes and lifters but there's still "missing space" that needs to be filled if you understand me. Imm taking courses in fire science in the meantime but what would be the best program you would recommend that you could get out of college?(if there is one), If anything, maybe a textbook that you may have had to read for one of your grad classes. Its getting harder to find better info online or in store nowadays. Ive read to many fitness mags and they are all the same with all the same excercises and programs. Thats why Im asking
                  Last edited by farmerson12; 03-13-2010, 04:03 PM.
                  "Greater love hath no man, than to lay down his life for a friend" John 15:13
                  CFD

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                  • #24
                    I am 25 - the log is the logs part of this forum, think I just called it 2009 or something

                    to pu12 - i have a huge binder that I put all my workouts into - dating back to summer last year I think - I sit down every weekend and spend an hour or so developing my program for the upcoming week; sometime I want to make a more long term program for myself to maximize gains but I do enjoy making them weekly as it lets me incorporate exercises/ideas I read about on the fly


                    farmerson - I'm not 100% sure what you mean collegeiate/olympic approach of learning.. theres a million vantage points on everything and the only way to improve your knowledge is to be aware of them - everything I read/learn/experience I take as much away from as possible and store in my head as a tool, the more tools i have in that box the more jobs I can accomplish with less effort.

                    It isnt some simple activity (or group of events) you go through and it all makes sense.. it's a lifestyle you must become dedicated too - a state most people never reach; most simply work to have money/pay bills/survive, i work because it is my love and joy of living. ever since i stepped into a weight room and trained for sports as a kid ive been a meathead; the things ive thought about and taught myself under the bar cant be matched by any formal program or person

                    One of the best resources I need to read is Supertraining by Mel Siff and Verkhoshansky - ive heard it is a difficult read like a textbook from the strength coach I work with, but all the big names also say it is one of the best things theyve ever read.

                    Any kinesiology/exercise science college program would be good -- but your only going to get textbook smarts and quite frankly learn communicaitonal/organizational skills -- formal education is far overrated. I do sometimes wish I had a degree in biomechanics or physiology so I would understand those aspects of the body more, but knowing this those are things I plan to self-educate through literature in the future as time allows - some schools have an actual strength & conditioning program which I imagine would be best


                    My favorite online sources = elitefts.com - I read their newsletter articles (save them into a pdf file and when it reaches 250+ pages I have my fiancee print it out at work for me) great info from many people around the country; strong powerlifting focus but you tell me it doesnt take smarts to squat 1000+ and Ill show everyone around us a big ol dumbass (ps: louie simmons is a god; and i get to see him speak at a clinic in 2weekends!!!!!!very stoked)

                    I've also read every blog post by joe defranco - informative stuff w/a strong sport performance focus , but if your not trainign like an athlete your missing out on the gold

                    those are the only internet sites I routeinly visit for trainign info/equipment/etc. books are better for learning; easier to read on the eyes and typically you have to be smart to write a book; anyone can blog about anything and there are a ton of dipshits in the health/fitness world; but sadly, there are even more dipshits in western civilization and the health/fitness dipshits flourish


                    fitness mags are horrible -- i cancelled my subscriptions to mens health & mens fitness the other week -- it was time to let the highschool training resources die - the main thing you get out of these muscle & fiction publications is a strong desire to abuse supplements (aka waste your money at the cost of your health -often called the lose-lose scenario) and psychological issues from the rediculous advertisments for said supplements on every other page
                    Last edited by jiritt0; 03-14-2010, 09:26 AM.

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                    • #25
                      looks like we can really relate/agree on some JD! simmons is a god!
                      ive been doing a lot of studying on elitefts as well recently, and a lot more on the westside training principle as i am more interested in powerlifting than bodybuiding.

                      any info you could share on that would be excellent

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                      • #26
                        subscribe elite fts mailing list; and read everything from the message you get every friday. dont just read it, study the shit. than buy all the elite fts ebook manuals and read them (some are intense; the bench manual is like 300pages) - i highly recommend free print jobs at work if able, keeps cost lower

                        5/3/1 is good for starters or keeping it easy and the whole russian conjugate sequence periodization programming is god. Whenever I have access to train with a power rack (ideally elitefts collegiate) my progress will go through the roof, especially if I find someone equally nuts and body comp to try and run with me


                        Powerlifting is not my thing -- not athletic enough -- but the principles they use are great for many things and potentially detrimental for others - and this varies within people, and within individuals at varying times. (what works best for some = not all, what works best for you now = not always) -- basic broad principles will almost always apply though


                        I take the same stance on olympic lifting

                        I wouldnt have the most fun training powerlifters or olympic weightlifters -- training american football athletes is my goal due to the sport considerations, but I really enjoy training anyone that wants to improve and is willing to work. One my favorite clients (whatever) is an overweight woman I have in a class, the training is easy and boring, but her mentality is great and I see great things in her future if she doesnt relapse to old ways.
                        Last edited by jiritt0; 03-14-2010, 02:28 PM.

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                        • #27
                          Already subscribed, love that site to death. great resource.

                          especially if I find someone equally nuts and body comp to try and run with me
                          Want to tone that ego down there buddy?

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                          • #28
                            confidence is a stain you can't wash off

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                            • #29
                              A stain is still filth

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                              • #30
                                Actually from my own experience and from alot of research, you are better off getting your arms bigger by concentrating on developing a bigger back and chest. Your biceps will grow from mostly heavy compound back exercises like pullups, chins and bentover rows and your triceps will grow from alot of benching and dips.

                                You really dont need alot of arm exercises for the arms to grow....just concentrate on getting the big compound exercises up in weight. Also, gaining alot of bodyweight will put size on your arms.

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