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    Quote Originally Posted by adcustom
    I must say...I am sort of worried about my lack of eating. Every meal feels like I'm forcing myself to eat. I've never taken a Sesamin product before, so I couldn't tell you if it was the RA or the SG...but MAN I can't eat anything. I can usually down two turkey sandwiches and still be hungry...but today I could barely finish my 1st sandwhich. I know it's not pyschological...because I literally "felt" my body telling me to stop eating.

    I don't know. Can you CL guys give me some feedback?
    I'm not really sure how to phrase this , but Red ACID Gen 2 is a cutting / fatloss supplement. That's why I was very surprised when you decided to try and actually bulk on Red ACID Gen 2 (in your tester application, the main goal listed was fatloss so there was no indication that you would be bulking).

    Remember the FAQ that talks about how Red ACID will suppress your appetite and cravings ?:
    http://controlledlabsforum.com/showthread.php?t=1201

    So, having said that (and with your specific goals in mind) I would keep everything the same, with DAILY bodyweight updates. If fatloss is your goal, you don't want to bulk.... you want to either recomp or cut.

    Simply put, recomposition is a (usually longer) fatloss phase, with a focus on retaining muscle and strength

    Cutting is a fatloss phase, with a focus on... fatloss

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    I know you guys probably think I'm retarded...okay, so maybe "recomposition" is really want I'm going for.

    And that's what my goal is. I don't want to get huge. I don't want to pack on weight. What I want is to lose fat....but no so quickly that I lose muscle as well. So I guess recomp is what I'm going for.

    And just so you guys no...I haven't been "bulking" necessarily. I haven't been eating more (obviously) and I've been doing cardio. Really, my worry...is that I'm going to drop 10 pounds in two weeks and it's going to take my muscle with it.

    But anyway, I'm happy so far. I'm definitely getting stronger each workout.

    After reading this: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...light=sesaglow

    I am seriously considering dropping the Sesaglow. Please give me guidance, CL.
    Last edited by adcustom; 09-29-2006 at 07:40 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adcustom
    I know you guys probably think I'm retarded...okay, so maybe "recomposition" is really want I'm going for.

    And that's what my goal is. I don't want to get huge. I don't want to pack on weight. What I want is to lose fat....but no so quickly that I lose muscle as well. So I guess recomp is what I'm going for.

    And just so you guys no...I haven't been "bulking" necessarily. I haven't been eating more (obviously) and I've been doing cardio. Really, my worry...is that I'm going to drop 10 pounds in two weeks and it's going to take my muscle with it.

    But anyway, I'm happy so far. I'm definitely getting stronger each workout.

    After reading this: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...light=sesaglow

    I am seriously considering dropping the Sesaglow. Please give me guidance, CL.
    I understand your concern. Simply put, SesaGLOW is all natural and it does work as described. If you check out the FAQ, you will notice that it's perfect for a recomp because of it's potential for nutrient partitioning... meaning that you could (if you want) actually increase your calories (so that you don't lose weight too fast) and those calories will be more likely to results in lean mass vs. fat (simplified).

    My main concern with any sesamin product would be possible lethargy, which can be avoided by decreasing the dosage.

    So in short... keep up the good work, keep us updated on your bodyweight please, and feel free to decrease the SesaGLOW dosage to 1-2 caps per day if you want.

    Any other questions or concerns, don't hesitate to ask !!

    Last edited by pu12en12g; 09-29-2006 at 06:46 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pu12en12g
    you could (if you want) actually increase your calories (so that you don't lose weight too fast) and those calories will be more likely to results in lean mass vs. fat (simplified)...
    Just to expand on that... if you feel that Red ACID Gen 2 is shutting down your appetite too much, feel free to decrease to the following dosage for a while:

    2 Capsules Pre-workout

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    I love the feeling RA has given me. I definitely don't want to change dosing on that. Especially since I feel like I owe it to you guys to do a correct 30 day lof of RA like I promised.


    Sesaglow on the other hand...I don't know. Some of the stuff I have been reading about Sesamin has scared me. I know it's all natural and I know it can't "hurt me". But all this talk about increased estrogen and manboobs is freaking me out.

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    Guys, I need advice about Sesaglow ASAP. Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by adcustom
    Some of the stuff I have been reading about Sesamin has scared me. I know it's all natural and I know it can't "hurt me". But all this talk about increased estrogen and manboobs is freaking me out.
    That's exactly what the alarmists want to do... alarm people because of their own vendetta. You can take anything on the market and make people alarmed about it.... take the possible side effects of caffeine for example:

    - Diarrhea
    - dizziness
    - fast heartbeat
    - hyperglycemia
    - blurred vision
    - drowsiness
    - dry mouth
    - flushed dry skin
    - fruit-like breath odor
    - increased urination
    - ketones in urine
    - loss of appetite
    - nausea
    - stomachache
    - tiredness
    - troubled breathing
    - unusual thirst
    - vomiting
    - anxious feeling
    - cold sweats
    - confusion
    - cool pale skin
    - excessive hunger
    - nervousness
    - restless sleep
    - shakiness
    - weakness
    - irritability
    - jitters
    - tremors
    - bloating
    - dehydration
    - stomach pain
    - agitation
    - anxiety
    - excitement
    - restlessness
    - delirium
    - convulsions
    - seizures
    - fever
    - headache
    - increased sensitivity to touch or pain
    - muscle trembling or twitching
    - ringing or other sounds in ears
    - seeing flashes of “zig-zag” lights
    - muscle tension

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    Now are you going to be scared of coffee after reading that ? (I hope not)
    Last edited by pu12en12g; 09-30-2006 at 10:40 AM.

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    Let me highlight something else very important here.

    If you let doubts and negativity take over, your results will be affected and you essentially lose before you begin so-to-speak. It appears that you have focused only on misinformation that makes sesamin look questionable... have you looked at the NUMEROUS studies that support the use of sesamin and how it works ?

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    "fruit like breath odor"

    lol!
    A Gold's Gym puppet - and proud of it.

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    You make a good point, however caffeine is the single most widely used drug in society today. Most of those side effects probably account for 0.01% of the population.

    Can any of you (and I know there's gotta some that have actually used SesaGlow that have an opinion) actually give me concrete evidence that Sesamin will NOT be anti-anabolic and/or estrogen increasing?

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    - vomiting
    - nausea
    - loss of appetite
    - fruit-like breath odor
    - ketones in urine
    Yes I had a cup of coffe and lept into ketoacidosis.

    Sorry thats just funny.
    I really cant give any concrete evidence, but you can look at my log I have been making strength gains like crazy while loseing inches off my gut while on it.
    Dont ask for a light load, Ask for a strong back,and also some huge biceps while your asking.

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    Day 9

    Well, I decided to continue taking SesaGlow. However- I will be keeping a CLOSE eye on my test and energy levels. Let me just say this Controlled Labs...if I grow a vagina I AM GOING TO HUNT YOU ALL DOWN!!!

    Today was a pretty subpar day. All I did was go to school, work all afternoon, and then go to the gym. My workout was pretty good. I did chest and triceps today. My diet was clean as a whistle (aside from the Monster Khaos I drank at lunch).

    Some more things I've noticed about RA:
    -I can not tell at ALL intitially when I take it. However, I notice a warm feeling all over my body about an hour afterwards. Kinda odd.
    -My first dose has been immediately upon waking on an empty stomach. Unlike other supps I've taken upon wakening...it doesn't upset my stomach at all. I can't even tell I took it.

    Some more things about SG:
    -It gives me gas. Big time. I'm like a living breathing farting machine on this stuff.
    -Does not have a bad aftertaste. If only I could say the same about fishoil!!
    -My stomach makes the craziest sounds after I take it (always with food). It's like there are squirrels inside my stomach having an orgy.

    Body changes:
    -I've noticed a tad more definition around my "v-cut".
    -My pecs have gotten smaller (I would imagine it's fat that I've lost- I hope!).
    -Days when I eat a lot of calories, my body seems fuller and more pumped. Days I don't get to eat as much (all day in class and work)- I look more shrimpy.

    Well, that's all for today folks. I'm hitting the shower.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adcustom
    Day 9

    Well, I decided to continue taking SesaGlow. However- I will be keeping a CLOSE eye on my test and energy levels. Let me just say this Controlled Labs...if I grow a vagina I AM GOING TO HUNT YOU ALL DOWN!!!

    LOL...dont worry i dont think you will grow a vagina..
    Controlled Labs Red Acid Gen 2 Tester Log:
    http://controlledlabsforum.com/showthread.php?t=1232

    Bodybuilding.com Red Acid Gen 2 Tester Log sponsored by Contolled Labs
    http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=903768

    gettin down to business..

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    DAY 9 UPDATE:

    This isn't related to Red Acid...

    But I just gotta say- Purple Wraath is some killer stuff. Taking it with some palatinose makes cardio UNBELIEVABLE.

    That is all.

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    Okay, well...I decided to stop taking the SesaGlow. I just looked at my chest and my nipples are very puffy and abnormal looking (like nothing I've seen on me before). Plus, I've noticed a decrease in energy since taking it again.

    Quite honestly...I just don't wanna take a supplement I'm not comfortable with.

    From this moment on- this log is for Red Acid Gen 2 testing/reviewing only.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adcustom
    DAY 9 UPDATE:

    This isn't related to Red Acid...

    But I just gotta say- Purple Wraath is some killer stuff. Taking it with some palatinose makes cardio UNBELIEVABLE.

    That is all.

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    DAY 13

    Oh man. Life has been absolutely kicking my butt lately. I have been working, going to class, and studying for midterms NONSTOP since last sunday. I haven't even gone to the gym since monday. I feel terrible.

    I haven't been sleeping much, my diet hasn't been as clean as I would have liked, and I've been drinking caffeine like my job.

    I'm gonna go to the gym tomorrow afternoon and I'll give a good update then. But man, school is owning me right now.

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    Day 20

    So yeah, the past week was probably the hardest week of my life. I had 6 exams and also worked about 20 hours. Ahhhh...I'm so exhausted! I did go to the gym twice this week...but it's been so hard to keep up with the routine because of how insanely busy I am taking 20 credits.

    Anyway, as for the Red Acid update. I will note this: during the course of this log my diet has stayed consisently good, cardio has been the same, and all of my supplements have stayed the same. This will, hopefully, give accurate feedback at the effects of RA over the course of 30 days. My midsection is noticably tighter and as of 2 days ago...my bodyfat % is down to about 10%.

    RA has given me no noticable change in energy, "well-being feeling", or indigestion (which I did get with Sesaglow and Fish Oil). While my log isn't over yet...I would recommend RA Gen 2 to anyone as a great addition to their supplement stack. The non-stim properties are great...and it works. Sure it doesn't burn fat like an ECA stack (never tried that by the way)...and it didn't give me the monster energy that Lipo 6 did. But I feel "healthy" taking Red Acid 2.

    As always...feel free to ask any questions about my findings so far..

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    Keep your head up man.. sorry to hear that you aren't noticing the ergogenic effects.

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