What kind do u prefer? I train in the evening. I was thinking of HIIT (JOG/ SPRINTING). IM TRYING TO BULK, but I dont want to overdo cardio. Must loose belly fat!!.....comments
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I really wish I had bookmarked the article I was reading, but it was a discussion about doing cardio after lifting and whether or not it should be done, what should be consumed, etc..
what I remember from it was that as long as cardio was moderate intensity and no more than 25min duration, that the risk of catabolism was minimal. it also covered taking free form BCAA's should post-workout cardio be longer than 25min or if the intensity is greater than moderate. this will counter the catabolic potential.
if you're trying to bulk, and plan on doing HIIT post-workout, then what is duration of this, how will you be supplementing, or have you considered doing lighter intensity cardio? what about your diet? any changes you have planned for that? doesn't matter how much cardio you do if you have big macs and whoppers for lunch every day. (i forget what those taste like )
personally, I do about 10-25 of cardio after every lifting session and then extended cardio on non-lifting days
hope this helps, or at least sparks a few ideasjdouchebag for president
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If bulking, HIIT would not be good to good following weights. HIIT is much harder on the body as far as your metabolism goes and will turn catabolic. That's the big difference between regular cardio and HIIT. If you can, space out the weights and HIIT in the day. Or, do HIIT with food in the stomach and THEN hit weights. Either way though, I'd do normal cardio for about 25-30 minutes at moderate intensity while bulking.Blessed be the Lord my strength, which teacheth my hands to war, and my fingers to fight. - Psalm 144:1
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Originally posted by RRTTHE only reason I thought of HIIT post wk out, was Its short in duration, less than 25 min.... I am very tired post weights, I have a treadmill, but w/ warmer weather comming I thought @ jog/sprinting outside...
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Originally posted by SpartanIf bulking, HIIT would not be good to good following weights. HIIT is much harder on the body as far as your metabolism goes and will turn catabolic. That's the big difference between regular cardio and HIIT. If you can, space out the weights and HIIT in the day. Or, do HIIT with food in the stomach and THEN hit weights. Either way though, I'd do normal cardio for about 25-30 minutes at moderate intensity while bulking.
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Best thing would be HIIT after leg workout, Complex's after Back/Chest workout, and a day of GPP Strongman type stuff. With one day of regular cardio: Heres my training
Tue:ME Bench, Tri Work, Shoulder Work, Back Work (Complex at the End of a workout)
Thur:Lower Back/Upper Back Emphasize, Tri Work (Complex's or HIIT, or Sled)
Sat:Strongman Training or ME GM (Sled Pulling, Farmers Walk, Yolks, Fat Cable Sled Rowing)
Sun:Squat, Upper Back (HIIT)Last edited by LancerV; 03-01-2007, 02:12 AM.
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Originally posted by SpartanHIIT is going to be MUCH harder on you than regular cardio, so keep that in your mind. Personally, I'd go heavy weights, mild cardio while bulking. I know you want to minimize fat, but best way to do that is through to diet. You'll gain some no matter what though. That's why it's followed by THE CUT!
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Originally posted by LancerVHIIT is more taxing on the CNS than it is the body, which is why it shouldnt be done everyday but it can be done 1 or twice a week just fine. And regular cardio is more catabolic than HIIT
HIIT is far too short of a duration to lead to catabolism, generally speaking. Steady state cardio is far more likely to lead to a catabolic state. However, I would venture to say that most people don't have it in them to do HIIT after an intense weights sessionBack to the basics!
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Originally posted by stonecoldtruthHow is it that you and I finally agree on something :P
HIIT is far too short of a duration to lead to catabolism, generally speaking. Steady state cardio is far more likely to lead to a catabolic state. However, I would venture to say that most people don't have it in them to do HIIT after an intense weights session
And its because I know what Im talking about when it comes to this stuff
Heres a good article on Complexes http://www.elitefts.com/documents/mma2.htmLast edited by LancerV; 03-01-2007, 02:34 AM.
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Originally posted by stresterI heard that hell froze over this morning
On a side-note to Lancer..
Originally posted by lancervAnd its because I know what Im talking about when it comes to this stuff
SCT, still honest.Back to the basics!
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Originally posted by stonecoldtruthYour knowledge is greatly diminshed by your ego. Get that in check and you would come off a lot smarter :PLast edited by LancerV; 03-01-2007, 11:34 AM.
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Originally posted by LancerVEgo lol, Im the weakest person in my gym Its just kinda intresting to see people give out advice but yet they are always stuck in the same rut. Same with diet advice, people will be like oh well I dont know if I can do that and just stick to there methods and get no where.
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SCTBack to the basics!
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Originally posted by LancerVBest thing would be HIIT after leg workout, Complex's after Back/Chest workout, and a day of GPP Strongman type stuff. With one day of regular cardio: Heres my training
Tue:ME Bench, Tri Work, Shoulder Work, Back Work (Complex at the End of a workout)
Thur:Lower Back/Upper Back Emphasize, Tri Work (Complex's or HIIT, or Sled)
Sat:Strongman Training or ME GM (Sled Pulling, Farmers Walk, Yolks, Fat Cable Sled Rowing)
Sun:Squat, Upper Back (HIIT)Last edited by Spartan; 03-01-2007, 06:33 PM.Blessed be the Lord my strength, which teacheth my hands to war, and my fingers to fight. - Psalm 144:1
As iron sharpens iron, so one man sharpens another - Proverbs 27:17
Current Supps:
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Green Magnitude
Orange Triad
White Flood
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